21/09/2025 By CNCBUL UK EDITOR Off

What Should I Pay Attention To When Buying a Second-Hand / used Daewoo Puma 230MS?

Here’s a guide for what to check if you’re buying a used Daewoo (Doosan) Puma 230MS lathe / turning-milling machine. Use this as a checklist during inspection or negotiation.


Basic Specs to Know

Knowing the machine’s specs helps you assess whether it meets your needs, and gives you clues about wear / value. Some typical specs of the Puma 230MS:

  • Fanuc 18T / 18iTB control in many units.
  • Max spindle speed ~ 4,500 rpm on the main spindle.
  • Sub-spindle often included with various speeds (sometimes 6,000 rpm) and a live tooling station.
  • Bar capacity ~ 65 mm.
  • Turning diameter over bed ~ 290 mm. Swing over saddle somewhat less.
  • Travel in Z ~ 580 mm in many units; X travel depends on configuration.
  • 12-station (or more) turret, often with driven/live tooling and C-axis indexing.

What to Inspect & What to Ask

Here are detailed areas to check, and questions to ask, so you can discover hidden problems and judge whether the machine will perform well.

AreaWhat to Inspect / TestKey Questions to Ask
Spindle(s)• Run at various speeds and listen for unusual noise or vibration.
• Check run-out (axial and radial) and test for heat build-up.
• Inspect spindle taper and bore for wear or damage.
• For sub-spindle: check condition, alignment, whether it engages properly.
“Have there been spindle rebuilds? When was the last bearing replacement? Any spindle run-out / vibration issues?”
Control & Electronics• Check controller model / version; make sure it is reliable and serviceable.
• Run each axis; check servo responsiveness, backlash, encoder feedback.
• Inspect limit switches, sensors, wiring, any intermittent faults or alarms.
• Confirm all needed CNC functions (live tooling, C-axis, sub-spindle) are working.
“What control version is it? Any unrepaired electronic faults? Are drives / amplifiers / encoders in good shape?”
Turret & Tooling / Live Tooling• Does turret index cleanly & accurately? Any wobble or play?
• Check wear in tool holders, seating surfaces.
• If live tooling: check driven tools’ speed, torque, vibration, coolant delivery.
• Check tool changing mechanism, tool magazine (if present).
“How often has the turret been serviced? Are all live-tooling stations functional? Any missing or worn holders or tools?”
Axes & Structural Condition• Move axes throughout full travel; see smoothness, consistency, look for binding, loose parts.
• Inspect guide ways/slides for wear, scratches, pitting, corrosion.
• Check frame integrity, sub-spindle mounting alignment.
• Check whether machine has been reloaded / dropped / damaged.
“Has the machine ever been dropped or had any crashes? When were the axes aligned / adjusted / scraped / bed ways refurbished if ever?”
Accuracy & Calibration• Request test parts or calibration data: dimensions turning, milling, concentricity, roundness.
• Check repeatability over multiple cycles.
• Run a part that uses full Z travel, full X travel, full turret usage.
“Do you have recent calibration / inspection reports? What tolerances has it historically held under production?”
Wear & Usage History• Hours of operation: total and hours on spindle/live tooling etc.
• What material types were machined (hard, abrasive, tough steels increase wear).
• Maintenance records: lubrication, coolant changes, alignment checks.
• How was it used — heavy cutting, light finishing?
“What are the total running hours? How heavily was it used? How often maintained?”
Drive / Feed / Interpolation Features• C-axis indexing: does locking function work cleanly?
• Any issues with interpolations (Y-axis if present, or other complex axes)
• Rapid traverse rates vs actual movement under load.
“Are there any errors during C-axis / live-tooling interpolations? Rapid travel losses under load?”
Auxiliary Systems & Accessories• Coolant system, chip removal (chip conveyor), bar feeder (if included), tailstock, steady rest etc.
• Safety guards, enclosures, mist filters.
• Condition of tooling, jaws, collets, holders.
“What accessories are included? Are they all working? Any expensive missing pieces?”
Environment & Installation• Machine foundation, levelness, alignment after transport.
• Power supply condition: stable voltage, grounding, adequate amps.
• Cleanliness, dust, coolant maintenance, environmental control (temperature variations).
“Has the machine been moved recently? Was it re-leveled / adjusted? How has the environment been (dust, coolant quality etc.)?”
Consumables, Spare Parts & Support• Are consumables (bearings, seals, filters, coolant pumps) still available? What’s the cost?
• Manuals, parts catalogues, service documentation.
• Support options (supplier / local service techs).
“Do you have service manuals, spare parts list? Can you source parts locally? What are common replacement needs?”

Known Weak Spots / Common Failure Modes

Some issues that are often found in Puma 230MS units or similar machines. If you see signs of the following, pay extra attention:

  • Spindle wear: since the machine’s spindle is not cartridge type, replacing spindle bearings or correcting spindle wear is more difficult. If there is noise, vibration or problems with roundness/repeatability, that’s a red flag.
  • Air lines / air regulators: often degrade, especially in older machines or ones that have been idle for a while. Poor air supply or worn regulators can cause pneumatic/hydraulic issues.
  • Encoder / feedback / electronics faults: intermittent positioning errors (e.g. same program sometimes comes out correct, other times not, without changes) often point to encoder or servo issues, or control board issues.
  • Turret indexing inaccuracy or wear: excess play or delay in tool changes; wear in turret mechanism leads to positional error.
  • Coolant / chip removal systems often get neglected; dirty coolant, worn pumps, clogged conveyors reduce performance and damage parts.
  • Sub-spindle alignment and condition is often overlooked: if misaligned, parts held in both spindles will suffer from concentricity / alignment issues.

How to Decide If the Offer is Good

After your inspection & questions, you can decide using these criteria:

  • Does the machine meet your tolerance, size, speed, tooling needs after likely wear is accounted for? If the machine needs refurbishment, estimate that cost and subtract from what they ask.
  • Factor in all “hidden” costs: transport, install, leveling, calibration, spare parts, accessories.
  • Compare to cost of other used Puma 230MS units with similar condition; also compare new or refurbished equivalents.
  • Evaluate reliability: if parts are still available and there is service support, that reduces risks.
  • Think of downtime and maintenance: paying a little more for one in better shape can save you much more later.