02/10/2025 By CNCBUL UK EDITOR Off

What Do Buyers Look for Before Investing in a Pre-Owned, Used, Secondhand, Surplus CNC Equipment Before Purchase Tsugami SS207-5AX CNC Swiss Sliding Head Lathe made in Japan

When considering a pre-owned / used / surplus Tsugami SS207-5AX (or SS207-II-5AX, B-axis sliding head Swiss lathe variant), buyers should exercise extra caution. Swiss sliding-head, multi-axis lathes are complex machines, and failures or wear in a few critical components can be extremely expensive or even impossible to remedy reliably. Below is a detailed, targeted checklist plus general advice to help you evaluate whether a used SS207-5AX is a safe and smart purchase.


Typical Specifications & Capabilities (for benchmarking)

Before inspection, collect the exact model variant and options, and compare to factory spec to spot discrepancies. Some published values for the SS207-5AX / SS207-II-5AX:

  • Bar / stock capacity: 20 mm (0.787 in)
  • Working length (with guide bushing): ~ 210 mm (8.65 in)
  • Working length (in chucker (non-guide bushing) mode): ~ 45 mm (1.77 in)
  • Control: FANUC 31i-B5 (or equivalent)
  • Number of tool positions (standard): ~ 37 tools
  • Spindle & live tool speeds:
     • Main spindle: 200 – 10,000 rpm
     • Live tool spindle ranges (front, B-axis, back): up to ~ 8,000 rpm (varies by tool)
  • Rapid traverse / feed rates: e.g. 35 m/min in linear axes, others less
  • Machine weight & footprint: ~ 3,745 kg (8,267 lb)
  • Power requirement: ~ 12.4 kVA, compressed air ~0.4 MPa, coolant tank ~260 L
  • Controlled axes: typically 7 axes (X1, Z1, Y1, X2, Z2, Y2, B)
  • Features: B-axis swiveling live tool functionality, modular tool zones, ability to run in guide bushing or chucker mode (optional)
  • Other features: thermal displacement compensation, simultaneous 5-axis machining, optional accessories (back tool spindle, multipurpose tool spindles)

Knowing these spec targets gives you a baseline to judge whether the machine on offer is “as advertised,” or whether some components have been downgraded or heavily modified.


Detailed Inspection Checklist for SS207-5AX (Swiss / Sliding-Head + B-Axis)

Below is a breakdown of the areas to inspect (mechanical, electronic, accuracy, support) along with what to watch for and red flags.

Subsystem / AreaWhat to Inspect / TestWarning Signs / Red FlagsNotes / Specific Tests
Frame / Structure / BaseLook for cracks, weld repairs, distortion, signs of collisions or impactWeld repairs especially near headstock, tailstock, or bed are risky — hidden stressCheck that bed rails are straight, no twist; check bolt holes, leveling pads
Inspect guideway surfaces on the sliding headstock / guide bushing areaScratches, pitting, corrosion can degrade concentricityUse a straightedge, feel runover with feeler or dial gauge
Check alignment / squareness of headstock to bed, tailstock, turret planesMisalignment suggests previous repairs or damageUse gauges / indicators for geometric checks
Sliding Headstock / Guide Bushing / Bar SlideMove the sliding headstock along full travel, feel for binding, stiction, non-uniformityRough spots or variable friction suggest wear, lubrication issues, damageDo this slowly and record “feel” at intervals
Inspect guide bushing mechanism (if present) — check wear, condition, concentricityWorn or loose bushing housings lead to poor part finishRun test bar / dummy, measure eccentricity vs over travel
Check lubrication / coolant to guide bushing pathsInsufficient flushing or lubrication can accelerate wearRun coolant, check pressure, flow, leakage
Spindles & Bearings (Main, Secondary, Live Tool Spindles)Run each spindle (main, sub, live tool) at multiple speeds; listen for noise, vibration, heatHumming, grinding, roughness, hot bearings indicate wear or damageUse accelerometer or vibration meter if available
Measure spindle runout (with a precision bar or test mandrel)High runout degrades finish and tool lifeTest at multiple positions along length
Check spindle axial / radial playExcessive play is unacceptable in precision machiningUse known standards or dial indicators
For the B-axis live tool spindle: test angular indexing, smooth transitions, torque under loadSloppy B-axis behavior will wreck 5-axis partsRun a complex contour toolpath if possible
B-Axis / Rotary / Indexing MechanicsCycle the full B-axis swing across its full range; record backlash, repeatabilityHigh backlash or inconsistent motion is a major red flagTest at multiple points in the arc
Check coupling / gear engagement in the B-axisGear chatter or misalignment implies wear or poor maintenanceListen and record under load
Check encoder feedback and alignment in the rotary pathErroneous feedback kills contouring accuracyUse diagnostic mode or measure with external equipment
Tool Zones / Live Tools / Tool ChangerCycle all live tools (front, back, B-axis) repeatedly; observe consistency, misfires, delaysJams, mis-indexing, hesitation, misalignment are problematicRun through full automatic cycles many times
Inspect tool pockets, taper interface (ER16, ER11, etc.), locking mechanismsWear or damage in tool pockets degrades repeatabilityUse test gauges for taper surfaces
Check quick-change cartridges (if used) for wear or loosenessThese are frequently replaced or modified — ensure compatibility and precisionSwap in/out tools, measure runout
Control / CNC / Electronics / WiringPower up control, run homing & reference cyclesInability to reference or home reliably is criticalTest in all axes including B-axis
Load test program (e.g. simple Swiss part or multi-axis contour) and run itLook for axis stalling, error alarms, overruns, deratingA real cutting test is more revealing than “air moves”
Review wiring loom, connectors, cables — look for signs of overheating, rewiring hacks, brittle insulationBad wiring is one of the most common failure causes in older machinesOpen control cabinet, inspect each board, fans, backups
Check cooling / cabinet air handling, filters, fans, dust, cleanlinessOverheating, clogged fans accelerate failureRun machine for a while to see thermal stability
Hydraulics / Pneumatics / Coolant / AuxiliariesTest coolant pump, flow, pressure; check lines, filters, nozzles, flushingWeak flow or contamination is a sign of neglectUse dye to trace leakage, measure flow rate
Check central lubrication systems (ways, slides, tool zones)Missing or failing lube is a major riskLook for low oil levels, broken lines
Inspect chip management, conveyors, wash systems, door interlocksThese “auxiliary” parts often get overlooked but failing ones hinder daily useTurn them on, run them, inspect routing
Accuracy / Calibration / TestingPerform positional accuracy tests in linear axes (X, Z, Y) — gauge blocks, telestand, dial indicatorsIf deviations are far from spec, repairs may be costlyTest at multiple positions along travel
Run repeatability tests (move-out / return) in each axis including B-axis, measure deviationsPoor repeatability bodes trouble for complex parts5-axis work is extremely unforgiving
Run a real part (Swiss style) with full B-axis contouring, then measure finished geometry, surface finish, angular featuresThis is the definitive testCompare to your tolerance envelope
Usage History / Maintenance / Wear IndicatorsAsk for cutting hours, not just powered-on hoursCutting hours are far more meaningful for wear estimationCompare cutting hours vs year of manufacture
Ask which components have been replaced (spindle bearings, guideway refurb, B-axis gearbox, encoders, etc.)Knowing what’s new vs old helps you assess remaining lifeRequest documentation if possible
Inspect for signs of abuse: excessive chips in slides, poor coolant maintenance, grinding or hard materials useHeavy usage in abrasive materials accelerates wear drasticallyExamine surfaces, chips, coolant traces
Parts / Support / DocumentationConfirm availability of spare parts (control boards, motors, couplings, live tool spindles, B-axis gear sets)Obsolete or hard-to-get parts reduce long-term viabilityEspecially pro­prietary live tool / B-axis parts
Ensure you receive full documentation: operation manuals, wiring diagrams, parts catalogs, CNC parameter listingsThese are often lost in used machines and without them, servicing becomes significantly harderIf documentation is missing, deduct in your offer
Check whether the current control version, firmware, and features are still supported (or upgradable)Older control versions may be locked or unsupportedAsk manufacturer / distributor about backward support
Facility / Installation / InfrastructureVerify that the machine’s electrical requirements (voltage, phase, amps) match your shopRetrofitting power is expensiveCheck for power supply, protection, grounding
Confirm space, floor capacity, crane / rigging access, doorways, clearancesSwiss / sliding-head lathes are compact but must be precisely alignedPlan for leveling, vibration isolation, foundation
Check cooling system, compressed air supply (for tool clamping, chip blow-off)Edge cases: air pressure dips, moisture in lines, inadequate coolingMonitor during operation
Commercial / Contract SafeguardsNegotiate a conditional acceptance clause: final payment only once performance metrics are metPrevents buyer being stuck with a non-performing machineInclude benchmarks (accuracy, repeatability, throughput) in agreement
Insist on a run-in / burn-in period under loadSome defects only manifest under sustained useUse your own production program if possible
Clarify warranty / guarantee period (even for used machines)Some sellers offer limited warranties on major componentsStrive for coverage on spindle, B-axis, drive systems
Define responsibility for transport, rigging, installation, calibration, alignment costsThese “hidden costs” often push used machine purchases over budgetGet quotes in advance
Specify liability during transit / transit insuranceMany machines get damaged in shippingDocument machine condition with photos before shipment

Unique Risks & Pitfalls for Swiss / Sliding-Head + B-Axis Machines

Because of their mechanical complexity and precision requirements, Swiss sliding-head machines with B-axis capabilities carry additional risk:

  • B-axis wear or misalignment: The rotary / tilt mechanism is often the most delicate and expensive to repair. Small errors here result in angular contour deviations, which may ruin a high-precision part.
  • Live tool integrity: The live tools (front, rear, B-axis) tend to suffer heavy wear because they are actively cutting while rotating and often under high loads or torque. If these spindles are worn, repair or replacement costs are very high.
  • Guide bushing wear: The sliding head / guide bushing interface is critical for concentricity. If worn, you’ll lose part quality, and re-bushing or re-machining may be costly.
  • Conversion / modular accessories: Many SS207-5AX machines may have optional features (e.g. chucker kit, additional tool spindles). If these are missing or improperly integrated, capabilities are limited or inconsistent.
  • Control / firmware lock-ins: Some features (e.g. advanced 5-axis interpolation or B-axis synchronization) may be firmware-locked or require paid upgrades. Confirm full feature access.
  • Obsolescence / parts discontinuation: As the machine ages, certain specialized parts (especially for the B-axis mechanism, live tool spindles, custom platens) may no longer be manufactured or expensive to source.
  • Thermal drift and stability: Swiss machines are very sensitive to temperature changes (in guideways, headstock, slide rails). If the machine does not have good thermal compensation or has suffered thermal damage, you might see drift over long runs.
  • Hidden modifications / retrofits: Previous owners may have done non-OEM modifications (e.g. replacing bearings, adapting non-standard tool spindles) that degrade performance or complicate servicing. Always verify modifications with documentation.
  • High precision tolerances: Because Swiss machines typically produce small, high-precision parts, even small deviations (in microns) can ruin usability. The margin for error is low compared to larger machining centers.