01/10/2025 By CNCBUL UK EDITOR Off

What Do Buyers Look for Before Investing in a Pre-Owned, Used, Secondhand, Surplus CNC Equipment Before Purchase Muratec MW 120 GT CNC Twin Spindle Lathe made in Japan

When evaluating a used / surplus / secondhand Muratec MW 120 GT twin-spindle CNC lathe, you’re taking on a fairly complex machine. Because of its dual spindles, gantry loaders, and high throughput design, there are more potential failure modes than in a simple single-spindle lathe. Below is a detailed checklist of what to inspect, test, and ask — plus common red flags — specifically tailored to something like the Muratec MW120GT (or similar MW120 twin-spindle models).

I’ll start with a summary of key specs (to use as benchmarks), then go through the inspection & test plan, red flags, and negotiation strategy.


Key Benchmark Specs & Critical Features (for MW120 / MW120GT)

Before going on site, you should know what the “as-new” performance and layout of the machine should look like. Here are typical or published specs (you must confirm for the specific unit you’re inspecting):

  • The MW120 (twin spindle / chucker / gantry) is a twin-spindle CNC turning center.
  • Maximum chuck size is about 8″ / ø 210 mm for some configurations.
  • Spindle speed up to ~ 6,000 rpm in certain builds.
  • Standard spindle power (in many MW series machines) is ~ 7.5 kW (S3 / S6 duty) (with higher optional variants)
  • X-axis and Z-axis feeds in the “G” line are capable of 24 m/min (for certain MW configurations).
  • The GT variant (twin gantry loader) indicates enhanced automation / dual gantry robot loader setup, for higher throughput.
  • The distance between spindles (center-to-center) is ~340 mm in some listings.
  • In one listing, the control is Fanuc, 2-axis (for turning) with dual turrets (e.g. 8 stations × 2).
  • Some variants show turning diameters ~120 mm, turning lengths ~75 mm for certain part sizes in typical usage.
  • In more detailed listing, each spindle motor is ~11 kW and each spindle runs 4,500 rpm; turrets 8 positions × 2; X/Z travels ~130 / 145 mm on each turret.

So when you inspect, you should try to confirm whether the unit is a “standard” MW120GT or a “precision / upgraded / EX / HG / etc.” variant (which may have different tolerances, spindle options, etc.)


What to Inspect / Test — Detailed Due Diligence Checklist

Here’s a structured plan and what to look for. Use proper metrology tools (indicators, test bars, runout gauges, dial gauges) and, if possible, bring a technical expert or service technician who’s familiar with twin-spindle CNC lathes and automation/gantry systems.

Subsystem / AreaCheck / TestPurpose / What to Watch Out For
Machine History & Documentation• Ask for total power-on hours and, if possible, cutting hours (operational hours under load)
• Maintenance logs: spindle rebuilds, turret overhauls, gantry servicing, crashes
• Crash or collision history, repairs done, replacement parts used
• Configuration history (which options were installed, upgrades, modifications)
• Reason for sale
Strong documentation reduces risk. Undocumented history is a red flag.
Structural Integrity, Frame & Alignment• Inspect for cracks, weld repairs, deformation in bed, base, columns
• Check that the machine is level and mounted securely
• Inspect the alignment of spindle housings, turret bores, loader rails
• Check for signs that the frame’s been altered or reworked
If the structure has shifted, your attempts to relevel will not restore precision fully.
Spindles (Both Sides)• Run both spindles (cold) at various speeds (low to high) and listen or feel for vibration, noise, roughness
• Use a high-precision dial indicator or run-out gauge to measure radial and axial run-out of each spindle
• Check bearings’ play, seals, lubrication, oil leaks
• Inspect spindle bore (inner surfaces) for wear or damage
• If the spindles are identical or mirrored, compare them side by side for consistency
The spindles are among the most expensive parts. If one is marginal, it may need rebuilding or replacement.
Turrets / Tooling / Turret Drive Systems• Inspect each turret (left and right) for wear, indexing accuracy, backlash, repeatability
• Run several tool change cycles, under motion, to see whether any delays, mis-indexing, or errors occur
• Check tool holders, tool offsets, gripper integrity
• If live tooling is installed or an option, test its function, vibration, and runout
• Check turret drive motors, couplings, encoder feedback, sensor integrity
Tooling system problems are a common cause of downtime and may be costly to repair or align.
Motion Axes (X, Z, etc.)• Move each axis over full travel (both directions), checking for smoothness, binding, stiction
• Measure backlash or play, hysteresis
• Monitor motor currents / drive response (if you have access)
• Inspect ball screws, linear guides, coupling systems, lubrication
• Pay attention near travel extremes (ends) as wear often is worst there
Poor axis performance means that you may not get accurate parts over the full envelope
Gantry / Loader System (GT variant)• Verify the condition and alignment of the gantry loader rails, carriage, and movement
• Check how well the loader handles parts, picks, places without collision or binding
• Run load/unload sequences under normal operation
• Inspect grippers, sensors, mechanical linkages, and actuation motors
• Check synchronism between loader motion and machine cycle timing
Since a twin gantry loader is integral to throughput, any faults here cause idle time, misfeeds, collisions, or part damage
Control / CNC / Electronics / Wiring• Identify control type (e.g. Fanuc, or custom Muratec), software version, axes licensing
• Check backups, error logs, alarms
• Open control cabinets: inspect wiring, signs of overheating, burnt traces, dust, corrosion
• Check servo drives, I/O boards, connectors, spares availability
• Look for evidence of repairs, non-original wiring, modifications
Faulty or obsolete electronics are often a nightmare to repair or replace
Thermal Drift / Warm-Up Behavior• Warm the machine up (run some cycles or idle moves) for 1–2 hours
• Perform repeated positioning tests over time to see drift
• Conduct test cuts early, mid, late during warm-up and compare results
• Ask whether thermal compensation or sensors were part of the build and whether they are still active
Even a geometrically “good” machine can drift badly under thermal conditions
Accuracy, Repeatability & Geometric Test Cuts• Command repeated moves to the same coordinate, measure dispersion (repeatability)
• Do circular interpolation tests (e.g. X vs Z) across full envelope
• Run test cuts across the working envelope (different diameters, lengths, positions) and measure resulting parts (taper, roundness, parallelism, surface finish)
• Look at variation between left and right spindle performance (since twin spindles may age at different rates)
• Test extremes of motion (both spindles in near limit positions, overlapping zones)
If the machine can’t meet your part tolerances across its range, it loses value.
Auxiliary Systems: Coolant, Chip Handling, Lubrication, Pneumatics• Check coolant pumps, piping, filters, spray nozzles, coolant condition, leaks
• Inspect chip conveyors, chip removal paths, guarding, chip ejection
• Check lubrication / grease / oil lines, auto-lube systems, condition of fluid lines, leaks
• Inspect door enclosures, safety interlocks, access doors, guards, seals
• Check pneumatics (if used for chucks, actuators) for leaks, responsiveness
Even mechanically perfect machines fail if fluid or lubrication systems are degraded
Spare Parts & Serviceability• Find part numbers for critical spares (spindle bearings, turrets, encoders, loader parts, control boards)
• Check whether those parts are still available from Murata / Muratec or aftermarket
• Evaluate whether your local service network supports this model
• Ask what parts have already been replaced (and when), and whether spare consumables or modules are included
Having to wait months for a critical part can turn your machine into a liability
Installation, Logistics & Commissioning Costs• Disassembly, shipping, rigging costs
• Facility readiness (floor strength, crane, access, utilities)
• Installation, leveling, alignment, calibration costs on site
• Time required for break-in, test cuts, tuning, adjustments
• Power / voltage compatibility, wiring, cooling, compressed air, exhaust
These “hidden” costs can erode what seems like a good bargain

Red Flags & Deal-Breakers (for MW120GT & Similar Twin-Spindle Lathes)

Here are warning signs that the unit may require such repairs or refurbishment that the cost outweighs potential savings:

  • Significant spindle vibration, noise, or runout beyond acceptable limits
  • Turret mis-indexing, repeatability errors, or frequent tool change failures
  • Major wear or misalignment in the gantry / loader system (misfeeds, binding, collisions)
  • Discrepant performance between the two spindles (one spindle much worse than the other)
  • Poor documentation or refusal to share maintenance history
  • Obsolete control electronics or modules no longer supported or available
  • Structural damage (cracks, welds, severe misalignment)
  • Auxiliary systems (coolant, lubrication, chip handling) missing, damaged or nonfunctional
  • Modifications done poorly (shoddy wiring, non-OEM parts, non-professional repairs)
  • The seller disallows or limits your ability to run test cuts or open cabinets

Strategy & Tips for Negotiation / Inspection Visits

  1. Bring a Technical Expert / Service Technician
    Bring someone experienced with twin-spindle CNC lathes, gantry systems, and Muratec machines if possible.
  2. Demand Live Demonstration with Real Parts
    Insist the machine runs under actual production-like load, ideally with parts similar to what you’ll produce. Watch for consistency, tool life, drift, or errors over many cycles.
  3. Warm-Up & Extended Testing
    Don’t just test cold. Let the machine run for an hour or more, then test accuracy again to capture drift or instability.
  4. Test Both Spindles Thoroughly & Compare
    Because it’s twin-spindle, you have to check that both sides perform well (and equivalently). Many used twin-spindle machines have one side more abused than the other.
  5. Check the Loader / Gantry System in Motion
    Watch load/unload cycles, part pickoffs, gantry synchronization, gripper motions, collision avoidance. Because throughput depends on this, defects here reduce usable capacity drastically.
  6. Measure & Chart Accuracy
    Use instrumentation and log the test results (e.g. runout, deviation, repeatability). Compare to spec tolerances.
  7. Request Spare Parts / Consumables / Modules
    Ask the seller to include any spare modules, spare electronics, replacement belts, seals, or tools.
  8. Negotiate Based on Known Defects / Risk
    If you detect wear or potential problems, factor in the refurbishing cost (spindle rebuild, turret parts, loader repair) and reduce your offer accordingly.
  9. Condition-Based Guarantee / Acceptance Clause
    Try to include in the purchase a short “test-run / acceptance period” where you can return or renegotiate if certain performance specs are not met.
  10. Plan for After-Sale Maintenance & Health Checks
    After purchase, plan to immediately replace or recondition critical wear parts (like bearings, seals), re-calibrate, and test thoroughly to avoid surprises later.