25/09/2025 By CNCBUL UK EDITOR Off

Avoid Costly Mistakes: Professional Tips for Purchasing a Pre-Owned / Surplus / Second-Hand / used OKUMA MA600HB CNC HMC Horizontal Machining Center made in Japan

Here’s a comprehensive due-diligence / “avoid the landmines” checklist when considering a used / surplus Okuma MA-600HB horizontal machining center (HMC). Many of these tips are generic to large horizontal mills, but I’ll also call out issues specific to the Okuma MA-series / MA-600HB based on user reports and published specs.

Use this as a structured guide for inspection, evaluation, negotiation, and commissioning.


What to Know Up Front: Key Specs & Common Issues

Before inspections, it helps to know what “normal” specs are, and what issues owners commonly see.

Typical Published Specs / Configuration (for MA-600HB)

From used machine listings:

  • Travels: X ~ 1,000 mm, Y ~ 800–900 mm, Z ~ 810–1,000 mm
  • Table / pallet size: 630 × 630 mm, two pallets (or pallet change)
  • Max part / pallet load: up to ~1,200 kg (depending on variant)
  • Spindle: BT-50 taper, 6,000 rpm (in many configurations)
  • Tool magazine / ATC: commonly 60 positions in many used listings
  • Control: Okuma OSP series (E100, P100, P200, etc.) depending on build year / variant
  • Weight / size: machine is heavy (20+ tons) and large footprint — many listings show dimensions (approx. length ~ 6,800 mm, width ~ 3,380 mm, height ~ 3,200 mm)
  • “Space Center” variant: some MA-600HBs are sold in “Space Center” configuration (i.e. heavy-duty, more automation, more robust components)

From user feedback / forums:

  • Tool magazine / door locking issues: Some users report the magazine doors failing to lock properly, causing “door unlocked” errors mid-cycle.
  • Spindle temperature sensor failures: Some users replaced faulty spindle temperature sensors under warranty.
  • Swarf accumulation inside “horizontal” surfaces: Because of the geometry of horizontal machines, swarf / chips tend to accumulate in interior, low-angle surfaces, which can cause maintenance headaches if not cleaned out regularly.
  • APC / pallet drive gearbox wear / replacement: Users report needing to replace the gearbox in the pallet change mechanism, particularly when pallets or loads are near the limits.
  • Cables / feedback / inductosyn / encoder cable failures: One user reported a fractured cable in the B-axis Inductosyn system (positional feedback) — tricky and subtle fault to track.

These known “pain points” can help focus your inspection.


Pre-Purchase / Remote Due Diligence

Before visiting, do as much intelligence gathering as possible. These steps help you filter out high-risk machines and arrive better prepared.

  1. Request full machine history & documentation
    • Maintenance logs, service / repair records, breakdown history
    • OEM manuals, mechanical and electrical drawings, schematics, wiring diagrams
    • Original control parameter backup files, offsets, tool tables
    • Any retrofits, upgrades, or modifications (especially to control, drive systems, or structure)
    • Records of major overhauls: spindle rebuilds, pallet change mechanism rebuilds
  2. Confirm configuration & variant
    • Confirm exact model / variant (e.g. standard vs “Space Center”)
    • Check control type (OSP E100, P100, P200, etc.), firmware version
    • Ask which options are installed: coolant-through-spindle, 4th axis / rotary table, automation, probe, tool monitoring, additional pallet stations
    • Confirm the number of pallets, tool magazine capacity, pallet load capacity
  3. Ask for high-resolution photos / videos
    • Exterior: frame, base, covers
    • Interior: underside, chip collection zones, ways, rails
    • Tool magazine, pallet changer, magazine doors
    • Spindle sections, tool holders, taper area
    • Electrical cabinet interiors, wiring, PCB boards
    • Video of machine under power: axis motion, tool change, pallet change, spindle running
  4. Ask targeted operational questions
    • Total operational hours, cutting hours vs idle
    • Material types / workloads run
    • Any known recurring faults, alarms, or “weak spots”
    • Crash / collision history
    • Reason for sale
    • Whether a “trial run / acceptance test” after installation is permitted
    • Whether tooling / spare parts are included
  5. Check spare part & support availability
    • Are critical spares (spindle bearings, pallet drive parts, encoder modules, magazine door locks, special sensors) still available (in your country / region)?
    • Is the control version still supported by Okuma or third-party spares houses?
    • Are automation / pallet / tool systems from original OEM still maintainable?
  6. Logistics & site readiness
    • Ensure your facility can handle the machine’s weight, footprint, and need for foundation / anchoring
    • Check crane / rigging access, overhead clearance, disassembly / transportation constraints
    • Confirm your electrical supply (voltage, phase, frequency) is compatible or plan for appropriate conversions
    • Plan for coolant, lubrication, chip removal, ventilation, and space for maintenance access

On-Site / Physical Inspection Checklist

When you or your trusted expert get to the site, work through a systematic evaluation by subsystem. Document everything carefully, take your own measurements, photos, and notes.

1. Structural / Frame / Base / Alignment

  • Look for cracks, weld repairs, distortions, damage in the base, frames, pillars
  • Inspect surfaces for corrosion, pitting, rust especially in interior / hidden zones
  • Check flatness of base surfaces & alignment of guideways
  • Inspect mounting / anchoring points for signs of shifting or settling
  • Check whether the machine was relocated (moved) often — that can introduce alignment issues

2. Guideways, Linear Rails, Box Ways / Slides

  • Jog axis motions (X, Y, Z) smoothly through travel; listen / feel for binding, stiction, unevenness, jerkiness
  • Reverse direction, measure backlash / lost motion with precision dial indicators or laser methods
  • Visually inspect guide surfaces for scoring, gouges, wear lines
  • Check for proper lubrication (oilers, guards, lines) and functioning lubrication system
  • Remove covers / guards to see underside / hidden surfaces for surface degradation, contamination, debris

3. Ball Screws / Leads / Nuts / Couplings

  • Examine ballscrews / leads for wear, pitting, chatter marks
  • Jog to near or at travel ends and check for increased play
  • Inspect couplings (flexible couplers, alignment, end support)
  • Check for overloaded compensation (if the machine uses backlash or servo compensation)

4. Spindle & Tool Holding System

  • Run the spindle at multiple speeds; listen for hum, grinding, irregular noise
  • After running, let it sit and check for excessive heat in spindle housing
  • Use precision dial indicators to measure radial and axial runout at the tool nose
  • Inspect the taper area / tool holding interface for wear, marks, damage
  • Ask whether spindle bearings have been replaced or serviced
  • If coolant-through-spindle is installed, test seal integrity and pressure handling

5. Tool Magazine / ATC / Magazine Doors

  • Cycle the tool magazine thoroughly (indexing, tool changes) — test speed, smoothness, repeatability
  • Check magazine door locks / interlocks — user reports suggest door locking issues on some MA machines.
  • Inspect magazine drums, indexing mechanisms, sensors, and relays
  • Look at the interface between magazine and turret / spindle for alignment and fit

6. Pallet / APC / Pallet Changer / Table

  • Test pallet change operation through all cycles (load, index, change)
  • Check for smoothness, speed consistency, and alignment repeatability
  • Inspect the pallet drive gearbox, index mechanisms, rails, rollers — these are known weak points in some units.
  • Inspect pallet surfaces, clamp systems, sensors, and mechanical interface
  • Check for wear, damage, or misalignment in pallet indexing

7. Control, Cabling & Electronics

  • Power up control: check for alarms, missing modules, memory issues
  • Test operator panel: keys, mode switches, display, jog buttons, overrides
  • Run a simple program with axis motion, spindle rotation, tool change & pallet change
  • Check file transfer (USB, network, DNC)
  • Open the electrical cabinet: look for dust, corrosion, burn marks, wiring modifications
  • Inspect boards, relays, power supplies, connectors, grounding
  • Trace critical cables (e.g. feedback / encoder / inductosyn lines) for wear, damage
  • Be especially mindful of feedback cable systems for axes, as some users reported faults in cable to inductosyn B-axis modules.

8. Chip Removal / Swarf Management

  • Inspect chip ejection paths; test the chip conveyor (if present)
  • Examine “horizontal surfaces” inside for swarf build-up; one user notes that swarf tends to collect in horizontal or low-angle surfaces in the machine interior.
  • Check for clogged channels, restricted flow, and ease of cleaning
  • Inspect coolant system, sump, filters, screens, coolant pumps, pipes

9. Test Machining / Accuracy / Repeatability

  • Run representative parts / geometries (face milling, long cuts, boring, drilling)
  • Measure parts for dimensional accuracy, tolerance adherence, surface finish
  • Repeat the same part multiple times to test repeatability
  • Run longer cycles to allow thermal effect and check drift or dimensional changes
  • Test near extremes of travel to see performance across full envelope
  • Verify alignment of axes, squareness, and interfacing tolerances

10. Evidence of Crash / Damage / Abuse

  • Look for fresh welds, repainted sections, patched areas (which might hide prior damage)
  • Inspect for misaligned parts, bent frames, or stress zones near turrets, pallets, columns
  • Ask explicitly about collisions, emergency stops, overload events
  • Be cautious if the machine looks “too pristine” — cosmetic touches may obscure mechanical wear

Red Flags / Deal Killers

Some issues, if found, should heavily discount the machine (unless the price is commensurately low and you have a repair plan):

  • Severe guideway / slide / base wear that cannot be reconditioned
  • Spindle damage (bearing issues, worn or damaged taper)
  • Tool magazine door locking faults or repeated lock/unlock failures
  • Pallet changer / APC drive gearbox in poor condition
  • Obsolete / unsupported control version or missing critical control modules
  • Excessive signs of internal damage, crash repairs, structural damage
  • Missing critical parts (tooling, pallets, magazine components)
  • Electronics / wiring modifications with poor craftsmanship or undocumented changes
  • Evidence of long-term neglect (oil sludge, dirty coolant, lack of maintenance)
  • Cable / feedback system faults in critical axes

Negotiation & Contract Considerations

  • Use inspection findings to negotiate down for parts or deficiencies
  • Require the seller to bear or share transport, disassembly, rigging, reassembly costs
  • Insist on an acceptance / test-run period (e.g. 1–2 weeks) after installation, during which you verify machine performance
  • Hold back part of payment until acceptance is successful
  • Ask for spares / tooling as part of the deal
  • Include clauses for corrections if the machine fails predefined promises (e.g. repeatability, accuracy)

Post-Installation / Commissioning Checklist

Once the machine is in your shop, do a rigorous commissioning and validation routine:

  1. Leveling, anchoring, and alignment to foundation, verifying base geometry
  2. Clean / flush lubrication and coolant systems; replace filters and top off fluids
  3. Run break-in cycles: idle, light load, then full load
  4. Re-run your pre-purchase test cuts & measurements; compare results
  5. Monitor for thermal drift, dimensional stability, alarm behavior over extended run hours
  6. Keep a spare kit of critical parts (belts, seals, sensors, electronics modules, magazine spares)
  7. Establish a preventive maintenance schedule (lubrication, filter changes, inspections)
  8. Document all settings, offsets, parameter backups, and make sure backups are stored offsite