Avoid Costly Mistakes: Professional Tips for Purchasing a Pre-Owned, Surplus, Second-Hand, Used CHETO PWN 3000 CNC Deep Hole Drilling with Milling made in Portugal
Below is a structured “due diligence checklist” and set of professional tips targeted to buying pre-owned / surplus / used machines like the CHETO PWN / CHETO deep–hole drilling + milling systems (Portugal-built). Because these are high-precision, multi-axis, hybrid machines, the risks are greater than buying a used simple CNC mill or lathe. Use this as a “red flag / risk mitigation” guide.
Why extra care is needed with CHETO / deep-hole + milling machines
First, some context and peculiarities that make this type of machine riskier to buy used:
- CHETO’s PWN or IXN series machines combine deep-hole (gun drilling or BTA) with milling, tapping, boring, etc.
- They are complex, with multi-axis kinematics, specialized spindles, high-pressure coolant systems, automatic tool changers (for both deep drill and milling tools), chip management, control systems integration, thermal compensation, etc.
- Because of that complexity, degraded subsystems (drive axes, coolant, control electronics, sensors) can cascade into major errors or uptime loss.
- Replacement parts (especially for CHETO-specific or deep-hole drilling tooling, control boards, high-pressure pumps, encoders) may be expensive or hard to source, especially for older or custom-configured machines.
Given that, your buying process should be more cautious than for “ordinary” used CNC milling machines.
Pre-Purchase Checklist & Risk Mitigation Steps
Below is a structured checklist. Where possible, see / test / verify in person or via video/demonstration. If buying at a distance, you may insist on a “factory witness / third-party inspection”.
| Subsystem / Area | What to check / test | Why / What can go wrong | Acceptable tolerances / red flags |
|---|---|---|---|
| Machine history & documentation | – Get full service logs, repair history, original documentation (manuals, wiring, alignment sheets). – Ask for as-built specs, original factory calibration certificates. – Ask about any modifications, retrofits, or “unofficial repairs.” | Hidden damage or abuse history; undocumented modifications can conflict with geometry or control. | Absence of logs is a red flag. Lack of documentation of calibrations or alignments is a negative. |
| Spindle & deep-hole drilling head | – Run the spindle up and down (forward/reverse) at full speed; listen for noise, vibration, heating. – Check spindle taper & bore (e.g. tool held, mark test). – Inspect seals, bearings, cooling / lubrication to spindle. – For gun-drilling / deep drilling module: check coolant pressure, flow, seals, pump, return lines, filtration. – Run a sample deep-hole drill in a test block to see quality, straightness, drift. | Bearing wear, misalignment, worn taper, leakage, impaired coolant delivery—all can ruin deep-hole performance. | Abnormal noise, chatter, vibrations, oil leakage, uneven heating, or poor test drilling results are red flags. |
| Linear axes, slides, ballscrews / guides | – Jog each axis at full traverse, observe smoothness, accelerations, decelerations, any stalling or servo warnings. – Listen / feel for “grumbles,” “rumbles,” or unusual whines. – Move axes full forward → full reverse rapidly to detect backlash or play. – Retract covers / way guards and inspect slideways, gibs, lubrication and look for scorings, wear, damage. – Check linear encoder readings vs commanded movement (verify scale accuracy). – Check condition of limit switches, homing sensors. | Worn ballscrews, guideways, backlash, linear bearings wear strongly degrade precision. Repairs are expensive. | Excessive backlash, noise, binding, uneven movement, or large drift (> a few microns) is unacceptable. |
| Kinematic accuracy / geometry | – Do a “test part” or “NASA test piece” (e.g. a cylinder with a square on top, rotated, etc.) and measure to check geometric precision (squareness, circularity, tramming) as in machine-tool inspection protocols. – Use a dial gauge on the spindle and tram it across a known cylinder to check runout or tilt. – Check angular axes (B, A) if present for rotation accuracy, binding, backlash. – Thermal compensation behavior: after warming up, re-check geometry stability. | Geometry drift is especially critical in deep-hole / mold tooling because misalignment or drift leads to poor hole straightness, intersecting hole errors, which leads to scrapped parts or tool breakage. | If measured discrepancies exceed original factory specification tolerances (you should request the spec sheet), that is a red flag. |
| Tool changers / magazines | – If machine includes automatic tool changer for milling or the gun drill changer, run it through full cycles. – Inspect each tool magazine pocket or holder for damage, retention springs, positional repeatability. – Check motors, actuators, sensors of tool changer arms. | Tool change failure or poor repeatability causes crashes or misalignment. | Any failure, mis-indexing, mechanical binding, or mis-seats in pockets is a red flag. |
| Coolant / high-pressure systems / hydraulics | – Check condition of pumps, seals, hoses. – Check fluid cleanliness, filters, pressure and flow sensors. – Check piping integrity, leaks, corrosion. – Run coolant under pressure and flow, observe actual performance. – Check chiller units (if present) or temperature control systems. | Degraded coolant system reduces cooling, chip evacuation, tool life, and may cause catastrophic overheating or tool breakage. | Leaks, low pressure, clogged filters, inconsistent flow, or non-functional chillers are red flags. |
| Electrical / control / servo / drives / electronics | – Inspect control panel, wiring, circuit boards, fuses, cable harnesses for signs of overheating, dust, corrosion, repairs. – Check servo drives, spindle drives: any LED error codes or fault histories. – Check encoder signals, feedback systems. – Power up, check for error messages, alarm logs. – Test I/O, limit sensors, home switches, emergency stop, interlocks. – If remote diagnostics or software modules exist, check their functionality. | Electronic failures can be very costly (obsolete boards, proprietary firmware). | Consistent error codes, warnings, flaky electronics, or boards that look “burnt” or modified are red flags. |
| Infrastructure / foundation / alignment conditions | – Ensure the machine was installed on proper foundation (mass, level). – Check floor mounting, anchor bolts, base flatness. – Ask whether the machine has ever been moved and re-levelled; shifting may induce alignment issues. – Check leveling screws, shims, base alignment marks. | Misleveling or poor base can induce drift or stress. | If base is warped, corrosioned, or irregular, demanding re-leveling or base repair. |
| Thermal stability / environment effects | – After warm-up, record thermal drift over time. – Check internal temperature sensors (if machine has them). – Check for heat sources (electrical cabinet, coolant heating) near critical axes. | Temperature effects can cause growth, drift, which in deep drilling cause misalignment over long lengths. | If drift is large or uncontrolled, or the thermal compensation features are non-functional, that is a concern. |
| Spare parts, tooling, consumables | – Ask exactly which spare parts (wear parts, seals, pumps, encoders, sensors, boards) remain with the machine. – Ask about tooling (gun drills, holders, tool sets) and whether they are included. – Check availability and cost of critical spares specific to CHETO / deep-hole modules. | If a critical spare is obsolete or unavailable, downtime is high risk. | Lack of spare parts, or known obsolete components, is a red flag. |
| Software, firmware, controls / CNC interface | – Check which control system is installed (Heidenhain TNC, Siemens, Fagor, etc.). CHETO machines reportedly support Heidenhain TNC 640 or optional ones. – Ensure the control/firmware is the correct version for all axes and features, and that licenses / keys are included. – Verify that the kinematics, parameter tables, compensation models exist and are intact. – Test the interface: uploading / downloading part programs, communication ports, remote diagnostics (if available). | If the control is damaged, corrupted, or missing license keys, you may not get full function. | If firmware is missing, corrupted, or the control is unsupported, that’s a major red flag. |
| Test / acceptance cut, trial run | – If possible, run a realistic test job representative of what you plan to do. – Watch for error messages, tool wear rates, temperature behavior, deviations in part. – Measure the output and confirm that it meets tolerances. | A “demo test” is the ultimate proof of performance. | Failure to meet tolerances or tool breakage is unacceptable. |
| Transport, disassembly / reassembly risk | – Determine how the machine will be disassembled, shipped, and reassembled. – Get the original rigging drawings if available. – Check whether the machine can be shipped in one piece or must be broken down. – Account for alignment re-commissioning costs at your site. | Damage during move or poor reassembly can degrade geometry permanently. | Underbudgeting for transport & re-commissioning is a common hidden cost. |
| Warranty / seller guarantees / support | – Negotiate a limited warranty period (e.g. 30–90 days) or performance guarantee. – Ask if there is any remaining manufacturer warranty or service contract transferable. – Ask the seller (or a third-party inspector) to certify key subsystems. – Insist on “as-is, with defined disqualification conditions” if something fails on final check. | A seller backing gives you recourse if hidden defects emerge. | If seller refuses any guarantee, you’re assuming full risk. |
Strategic Advice & Tips (Professional “hidden wisdom”)
- Use a third-party inspection: Even if you trust the seller, hire an independent machine-tool inspector (preferably someone experienced with deep-hole / mold-making machines) to perform a forensic check. Their report can help you negotiate or walk away.
- Define your acceptance criteria in advance: Before visiting or bidding, prepare your “deal breakers” (e.g. max allowed backlash, max runout, max thermal drift). If the machine fails such criteria, walk away.
- Budget for “recommissioning / calibration / refurbishment”: It is quite likely that after transport, you’ll need to re-level, re-survey, adjust geometry, calibrate encoders, compensate axes. This cost can be tens of thousands USD/EUR depending on complexity.
- Check parts / serviceability in your region: If you’re in Europe, verify whether CHETO or authorized distributors can supply spare parts, support, calibration, field service. It’s no use to purchase a machine whose parts must come from Portugal with long lead times or import costs.
- Obsolescence risk: Even if a used machine works today, its control electronics, boards, sensors, firmware may no longer be manufacturable. Ask about the “end-of-life” status of components. For machines older than ~10–15 years, this risk increases.
- Request to run under full load: The seller should run the machine under conditions close to your worst-case operation (heaviest workpiece, deepest hole) to reveal hidden instabilities or overloads.
- Check alignment before and after test run: If possible, measure geometry before test cuts, then after running for some hours under load, re-check to see if drift or loosening occurred.
- Liquidity in spare tooling / consumables: Ensure you can source gun drills, deep-hole tooling, holders, high-pressure nozzles, abrasive consumables locally or via fast supply channels. Even if the machine is perfect, if tooling is unavailable, you’re stuck.
- Negotiate price cushions: Use the defects you found as negotiation points. If the seller won’t budge, insist on retaining part of the payment until successful re-test after installation at your site.
- Aliasing / job matching: Be absolutely sure the machine’s capacity (axis travels, drilling stroke, spindle power, torque, coolant pressure) matches not just your current jobs but the “worst-case” you may want in future. CHETO’s spec sheets (e.g. for IXN / PWN) list those parameters (spindle rpm, torque, stroke, etc.).
- Check one-off vs standard machine: If the unit was custom-modified by a user, some parts or dimensions may differ from standard CHETO machines, making spare parts or documentation mismatched.
- Don’t skip the “cold start” check: Ask the seller to power it off overnight (or simulate a cold start) and then boot up and move axes, to see if any failures only appear when cold.
Common Mistakes / Pitfalls (and how to avoid them)
- Trusting a “nice appearance” — Many sellers polish up the machine (clean covers, paint touch-up) but hide internal wear. Always look under the covers.
- Skipping test under load — Running idle is not sufficient; problems often manifest under torque, heat, vibration.
- Ignoring small anomalies (noise, backlash) — Small “quirks” often mask large hidden wear.
- Underestimating moving / installation / alignment costs — Many buyers get surprised by these “hidden” expenses.
- Overlooking obsolescence of electronics — Even though mechanical parts may last, control boards or proprietary firmware may be irreplaceable.
- Lack of warranty or recourse — Accepting “as-is” without protection can lead to a very expensive regret.
- Failing to check tooling / consumables supply chain — If you can’t get the specialized deep-hole tooling locally, you’re at risk of long delays or excessive costs.
- Neglecting thermal and environmental stability — The shop environment, ambient temperature fluctuations, dust, etc., affect precision machines heavily.






