22/09/2025 By CNCBUL UK EDITOR Off

What Industry Experts Recommend Before Purchasing a Pre-Owned / Second-Hand / used E.W. MENN GW63 Thread Roller Machine?

Below is what industry experts recommend you check / verify / demand before buying a used E.W. Menn GW63 Flat-Die Thread Roller (or similar thread rolling machine). It includes known specifications, common wear & risk points, tests & inspections to perform, documentation to request, and red flags.


Known Specs & Parameters for the GW63

Useful to know what “as made” or typical performance is, so you can compare what you’re looking at:

SpecTypical / Published Values for GW63
Blank diameter range (min-max)~ 3.5 mm to 8 mm for some machines.
Maximum thread length~ 55 mm (in some units) some variants give up to 80 mm.
Production speed / pieces per minute (ppm)One refurb unit claims up to ~ 260 ppm.
Dies size~ 115 × 130 mm dies in some refurbished units.
Age / refurb infoSome units are old (1970s) but refurbished (e.g. 2019) with updated components.

These give you a benchmark: if a machine claims to do more, check whether it truly can; if less, you may need to invest more.


What to Inspect / Check Before Purchase

Since thread rollers are mechanical and produce forces, wear is often hidden. Here are detailed aspects to inspect and test:

  1. Frame / Structural Condition
    • Check for cracks or fatigue in main machine frame, housing of roll slides, die holders. Heavy cyclic forces can cause micro-cracks.
    • Check alignment of the rolls and die holders: the slides that carry the dies must move smoothly and be properly aligned.
  2. Rolls / Dies Condition
    • Inspect the dies: look for wear, chips, pits, burnt edges. Dies shape is critical; worn dies will produce incorrect thread form or poor surface finish.
    • Check the matching of dies: that the mating die halves are symmetric, correctly oriented, and mounted securely.
    • Are dies made from good material, properly hardened? Has there been any previous refurbishment or regrinding?
  3. Blank Handling / Feed Mechanism
    • Is the feed (blank loading, positioning, guiding) consistent and well aligned? Differences in blank diameter or misalignment lead to poor threads or die damage.
    • Are vibratory bowls, feeders etc., in good shape (if present)? Uniform feed and consistent blank presentation matter.
  4. Slide / Guide Wear
    • Inspect the guiding surfaces/slides that carry the die holders and pressure rolls: are there scratches, wear flats, or looseness?
    • Check for backlash, looseness, movement where there shouldn’t be any.
  5. Pressure / Force System
    • Check how die closing / blank pressing / roll pressure is generated (hydraulic, mechanical, screw, etc.): is it consistent, adjustable, stable?
    • Any leaks in hydraulic or pneumatic systems.
    • Ability to adjust pressure for different blank hardness / sizes.
  6. Roll Synchronization and Timing
    • Flat die thread rollers often have synchronization mechanisms between rolls: check timing, drive belts/gears etc.
    • Inspect drive trains, gear wear, belts; any looseness, backlash, or worn teeth degrade thread quality.
  7. Blank & Thread Length Capacity
    • Confirm the machine can handle your planned blank lengths. For example, if your threads exceed 55 mm, ensure the machine variant supports longer thread length (some units do, others don’t).
  8. Speed / Throughput vs Desired Output
    • Does claimed pieces per minute match what you need? If the machine is advertised at 260 ppm, test whether under real working blanks / dies etc. it can maintain it without excessive wear or failure.
    • Cooling / lubrication system must cope with the speed; otherwise dies or machine may overheat or fail prematurely.
  9. Lubrication, Maintenance & Auxiliary Systems
    • Are oiling / lubrication points serviced? Are the lubrication systems working (slides, bearings, roll surfaces)? Poor lubrication accelerates wear.
    • Cooling / die lubrication (if required) for threads: is there a system to apply lubricant to die surface or blank? Dies tend to heat up.
    • Condition of auxiliary systems: feeders, blank handling, chip / scrap removal, guards.
  10. Safety / Guards / Controls
    • Safety interlocks, guards over moving parts. Are they present and functional?
    • Controls: positioning of pressure settings, ability to stop the machine quickly in case of jam.
  11. Wear on High-Load Components
    • Roll shafts, bearings supporting rolls: check for play, noise, vibration when machine is idle, then under light load.
    • Pressing surfaces and contact surfaces: where blank meets rolls, where dies contact blank: check for heat damage, galling, wear.
  12. Alignment and Precision Tests
    • Run test blanks, produce threads, measure thread form (major, minor, pitch diameter). Use thread ring/plug gages.
    • Measure thread lead / pitch consistency across many parts.
    • Check “start of thread” entrance: is there lead in appropriate chamfer etc., or is it ragged or inconsistent?
    • Inspect for “overfilling” or “underfilling” of thread profiles (thread crests not sharp, roots not correct), using optical or profilometer measurement if available.

What to Ask the Seller / What Documentation to Get

To reduce risk, demand as much of the following information and evidence as possible:

  • Total hours / cycles (or blanks processed). How many hours/days has machine been in service under load, how intensively has it been used.
  • History of maintenance: die changes, lubrication schedule, repairs, parts replaced (rolls, bearings, guides).
  • Information about refurbishments: if any shafts, dies, guides, hydraulic/pneumatic systems have been rebuilt or replaced. For example, Manassero’s GW63 was refurbished in 2019.
  • Sample threaded parts produced recently, ideally with the material, blank geometry, and thread depth/pitch similar to what you’d use, for your own inspection.
  • Photos of key invisible or less visible parts: roll surfaces, die surfaces, inside frame, slides & guides, bearings, drive system.
  • Warranty / guarantee on die matching or machine performance (even short term).
  • Control manual or technical documentation: parts lists, lubrication charts, drawings.

Common Failure Modes, Risk Areas & Red Flags

These are things that often come up on used thread rollers and may cost you significant repair or compromise output:

  • Dies or rolls with damage (chips, nicks) which were “patched” but not corrected: these degrade thread quality and increase scrap.
  • Feed inconsistencies: blanks out of round, variable blank diameter, poor handling: these cause thread defects.
  • Drive train wear: gears, belts, shafts worn or misaligned; can cause timing or synchronization errors that manifest as pitch errors or poor thread surface.
  • Lubrication failures: dry sliding surfaces or dies running hot, leading to wear, scoring, or die failure.
  • Poor or incomplete maintenance history: not knowing what maintenance has or has not been done increases risk.
  • Over-claiming throughput: sometimes machines are quoted with “best case” performance, but in your real world you may need to slow down due to material, blank prep, die lubrication, etc.
  • Age of components that wear but are expensive to replace (roll shafts, large bearings).
  • Missing or worn safety features, or missing controls/spare parts.
  • If machine has been idle for long periods: rust, corrosion, dried lubrication, seized parts can occur.

What You Should Budget For / Additional Costs

Even a well-maintained used GW63 may still need additional investment to bring to good production condition. Some of these include:

  • New dies or regrinding existing ones.
  • Roll resurfacing or replacement.
  • Bear-ings or shaft replacement if there’s play or wear.
  • Rebuilding or refurbishing slide / guide mechanisms.
  • Lubrication overhaul: replacing old, contaminated oil; checking lubrication circuits.
  • Ensuring feeders, blank handling systems are adapted to your blank types. Possibly need modifications.
  • Transport, installation, alignment at your site. Leveling and setting up properly.
  • Operator training for setup, die matching, maintenance.

“Good Condition” Criteria & What “Fair” vs “Poor” Looks Like

To help you judge, here are what experts often say are acceptable vs warning level conditions:

ConditionGood / AcceptableWarning / Poor
Roll die surfacesSmooth, sharp, no visible nicks; full hardness; matching shape in mating die.Visibly worn, chipped, mismatched, flattened crests; significant pitting or heat discoloration.
Slide motion / guide wearMotion is smooth, no binding, minimal backlash, slides are tight and properly lubricated.Sluggish, binding, noise, backlash, uneven wear patterns, visible scoring.
Pressure / force consistencyPressure is evenly distributed, adjustable, behaves consistently over many cycles.Pressure drift, leaking hydraulic or pneumatic lines, inconsistent thread quality due to pressure fluctuation.
Blank feeding / blank size controlBlanks consistently within the required tolerance; feed mechanism clean and reliable.Blanks out of spec; frequent rejects; feed mechanism worn or misaligned; blank slipping or mispositioned.
Throughput vs SpecAble to approach advertised ppm under your blanks & dies; stable operation.Machine only hits maximum in ideal cases; often must run slower; heat, wear issues when pushed.